|--------------------------------------------------| |--- SUIKODEN V Trading Guide ---------------------| |--- Version 0.98 May 03, 2006 --------------------| |--- By popemobile (James Turner) -----------------| |--- Email: zaxon (at) genericorp (dot) net -------| |--------------------------------------------------| |--- Table of Contents ---| 1. Version Info 2. Trading Overview 3. Rumor Events 4. Best routes by item 5. Prices by city |--- Version info: ---| 0.90 - First version. Most info included. 0.95 - Median prices and Gold rumor event info added. 0.96 - Fixed an error in the Best routes by item section. The Buy listing for Spices of Lelcar (2150) is now correctly listed as Estrise (2150). Thanks to baby blastoderm for pointing out the error. 0.98 - Added prices for Stormfist. I'd looked all over for a post there, but missed it. Thanks to John Edwards for pointing out it exists. If you have any comments or corrections for this guide, feel free to e-mail me at the address above. |--- Trading Overview ---| For starters, here's what Old Book Vol. 11 in the game says: "Trading Trade Secrets 1. Buy Low, Sell High! This is the most basic of principles when it comes to trade. Do the opposite, and you'll lose out! Anyone who doesn't understand this basic principle has no business being in commerce! 2. Do Your Legwork! The prices of tradable items are completely different from town to town. Get those legs working! Find out for yourself which towns sell cheap and which buy high! 3. Believe Those Rumors! You can trust that gossip you hear at trading posts. When the prices of tradable items change dramatically, that's your chance to make a big profit! Keep your ears open! 4. Build Up Your Achievements! The better your performance in trade, the more profitable items you'll be allowed to sell! Even if the profit margin isn't very high at first, if you steadily plug away at selling daily essentials, your achievements will surely be recognized! Now that you've taken your first steps toward becoming a great merchant, let me leave you with these words: Every merchant should know not to rejoice too much over a profit or lament too much over a loss!" Section four refers to the fact that if you trade a lot of basic items, it will unlock new items that you can trade. These items can provide you with by far the most profits, so make sure not to neglect those cheaper goods! The exact amount you have to trade to unlock them is unknown, but it seems that selling a large number of the required items at once boosts your chances. Unlockables: Soybeans -> Miso/Soy Sauce Wheat -> Beer Fruit -> Wine Rice -> Sake Gold -> Gold Craftworks |--- Rumor Events ---| Rumor events are the best way to make money through trading, as they greatly increase the profit margins on items. Early on the only rumor events that will occur are the basic commodity ones, but by trading a lot you will open up more profitable events. Stocking up on items in anticipation of a rumor event can drain your potch and clog your inventory, but it will reap huge rewards in the long run. The rumor events you can get are as follows: - Price drop in all cities: Sugar, Salt, Soybeans, Wheat, or Rice - Price boom in all cities: Sugar, Salt, Soybeans, Vegetables, or Fruit - Price drop on Iron in Dwarf Camp - Price drop on Gold + Silver in Dwarf Camp - Price drop on Pearls in Estrise - Price boom on Tea in Beaver Lodge - Price boom on Spices in Sable - Price boom on Handicrafts in Nirva Island - Price boom on Coffee in Sauronix - Price boom on sweets (Sugar and Fruit) in Rainwall (unconfirmed) - Price boom on Gold + Silver in Haud Village (unconfirmed) In 110 hours of gameplay, I never saw the Gold event, and only got the Sweets rumor during times when I had no access to Rainwall. However, from info I've been sent, it seems if you get a "No rumor" event at a normal marketplace, you can then go ask Sairoh and his rumor will mention personal accessories being all the rage in Haud, and Gold + Silver will be 900k there. (Thanks to Elairz for this info) I've also read some speculation that having a large number of Gold + Silver in your warehouse increases the likelihood of the Gold rumor event. This seems to fit with my own experience, as I never had Gold in my warehouse, but I did have lots of Fruit and Sugar in it when I got the Sweets rumor event. |--- Best bets by Item---| - Median price Median price is the middle of all the prices throughout Falena. For people who don't want to bother with looking up lots of numbers, you can use this list as a very basic guide to profitability - anything below the median is in the "cheap" half, while anything above it in the "expensive" half. (Thanks to Kirin for suggesting this list and doing the number crunch.) Median price: Sugar: 70 Salt: 200 Soybeans: 360 Veggies: 640 Fruit: 1600 Wheat: 2100 Rice: 2500 HndCrfts: 2400 Coffee: 4000 Tea: 4800 Spices: 2500 Iron: 10000 Gld&Slv: 54000 Pearls: 70000 Miso: 3600 Beer: 11000 Wine: 15000 Sake: 35000 GldCwk: 140000 - High/Low item prices: -Sugar: BUY in Sable (50), Raftfleet (55), Nirva (55), Haud (60), Estrise (65) SELL in Sol-Falena (100), Rainwall (90), Lelcar (90), Stormfist (95), Dwarf Camp (85) -Salt: BUY in Raftfleet (100), Nirva (110), Sol-Falena (120), Estrise (130) SELL in Rainwall (300), Sauronix (280), Beaver Lodge (270) -Soybeans: BUY in Sable (200), Beaver Lodge (210), Sol-Falena (220), Stormfist (250) SELL in Sauronix (500), Dwarf Camp (490), Nirva (450), Rainwall (420) -Vegetables: BUY in Yashuna (500), Sol-Falena (520), Nirva (540), Beaver (550), Haud (590) SELL in Dwarf Camp (1000), Lelcar (950), Sauronix (900) -Fruit: BUY in Sauronix (1000), Sable (1100), Nirva (1200), Estrise (1300) SELL in Raftfleet (2000), Haud (1950), Dwarf Camp (1950) -Wheat: BUY in Stormfist (1500), Sol-Falena (1600), Nirva (1700), Estrise (1800) SELL in Yashuna (2500), Sauronix (2400) -Rice: BUY in Beaver (2000), Sable (2050), Raftfleet (2100), Haud (2200) SELL in Nirva (3000), Sauronix (2900), Yashuna (2850) -Handicrafts: BUY in Castle (1500), Haud (1550), Sol-Falena (1550), Yashuna (1700) SELL in Estrise (3000), Dwarf Camp (2900), Nirva (2800) -Coffee: BUY in Lelcar (3000), Sol-Falena (3100), Stormfist (3300)Yashuna (3500), Estrise (4000) SELL in Haud (6000), Sauronix (5800) -Tea: BUY in Rainwall (4000), Castle (4200), Raftfleet (4500), Sauronix (4500) SELL in Sable (7000), Nirva (6500), Estrise (6000) -Spices: BUY in Nirva (2000), Estrise (2150), Sol-Falena (2250), Stormfist (2350), Raftfleet (2500) SELL in Lelcar (4000), Sauronix (3800) -Iron: BUY in Estrise (8000), Haud (10,000), Dwarf Camp (11,000) SELL in Stormfist (15,000), Sol-Falena (14,500), Sauronix (14,200), Sable (14,000), Nirva (13,500) -Gold + Silver: BUY in Dwarf Camp (50,000), Nirva (51,000), Estrise (55,000), Raftfleet (57,000) SELL in Haud (60,000) -Pearls: BUY in Estrise (70,000), Nirva (72,000) SELL in Rainwall (80,000), Sol-Falena (78,000), Raftfleet (75,000), Haud (75,000), Stormfist (75,000) -Miso/Soy: BUY in Sable (2000), Castle (2200), Raftleet (2500), Lelcar (3000), Dwarf Camp (3000), Rainwall (3600), Estrise (4000) SELL in Sauronix (8000), Nirva (7800) -Beer: BUY in Lelcar (5000), Stormfist (6000), Castle (7500), Sauronix (8500), Raftfleet (9000), Haud (10,000) SELL in Dwarf Camp (15,000), Nirva (14,000), Yashuna (13,500) -Wine: BUY in Raftfleet (8000), Yashuna (10,000), Castle (15,000), Lelcar (15,000), Estrise (18,000), Nirva (20,000) SELL in Stormfist (30,000), Sol-Falena (28,000), Rainwall (27,500), Haud (26,000) -Sake: BUY in Beaver (20,000), Castle (25,000), Yashuna (28,000), Raftfleet (30,000), Estrise (31,000), Haud (35,000), Rainwall (40,000) SELL in Nirva (50,000), Lelcar (48,000) -Gold Craftwork: BUY in Dwarf Camp (100,00), Haud (150,000), Stormfist (180,000) SELL in Sol-Falena (200,000), Castle (190,000), Nirva (190,000) |--- Prices by City ---| Key: Each item's prices are listed in its own column with three numbers. Example: ---------------------------------------------------------- Name A -B +C ---------------------------------------------------------- A is the item's basic price. -B is the item's price during a price drop rumor event. +C is the item's price during a price boom rumor event. If the number in column A is in parentheses, that indicates that the item is not sold at that particular trading post; this is only the price for selling it there. ----------------- / SOL-FALENA / ----------------- ---------------------------------------------------------- Sugar 100 -20 +250 ---------------------------------------------------------- Salt 120 -48 +720 ---------------------------------------------------------- Soybeans 220 -44 +440 ---------------------------------------------------------- Vegetables 520 +1560 ---------------------------------------------------------- Fruit 1600 +8000 ---------------------------------------------------------- Wheat 1600 -800 ---------------------------------------------------------- Rice 2300 -1150 ---------------------------------------------------------- Handicrafts 1550 ---------------------------------------------------------- Coffee 3100 ---------------------------------------------------------- Tea 5200 ---------------------------------------------------------- Spices 2250 ---------------------------------------------------------- Iron (14,500) ---------------------------------------------------------- Gold + Silver (54,000) ---------------------------------------------------------- Pearls (78,000) ---------------------------------------------------------- Miso 7000 ---------------------------------------------------------- Beer (12,400) ---------------------------------------------------------- Wine 28,000 ---------------------------------------------------------- Sake 45,000 ---------------------------------------------------------- Gold Craftworks 200,000 ---------------------------------------------------------- ---------------- / STORMFIST / ---------------- (Thanks to John Edwards for most of this info) ---------------------------------------------------------- Sugar 95 -19 +237 ---------------------------------------------------------- Salt 150 -60 +900 ---------------------------------------------------------- Soybeans 250 -50 +500 ---------------------------------------------------------- Vegetables 600 +1800 ---------------------------------------------------------- Fruit 1400 +7000 ---------------------------------------------------------- Wheat 1500 -750 ---------------------------------------------------------- Rice 2400 -1200 ---------------------------------------------------------- Handicrafts (1600) ---------------------------------------------------------- Coffee 3300 ---------------------------------------------------------- Tea (1000) ---------------------------------------------------------- Spices 2350 ---------------------------------------------------------- Iron 15,000 ---------------------------------------------------------- Gold + Silver (58,000) ---------------------------------------------------------- Pearls (75,000) ---------------------------------------------------------- Miso (1000) ---------------------------------------------------------- Beer 6000 ---------------------------------------------------------- Wine 30,000 ---------------------------------------------------------- Sake (25,000) ---------------------------------------------------------- Gold Craftworks 180,000 ---------------------------------------------------------- --------------- / RAINWALL / --------------- ---------------------------------------------------------- Sugar 90 -18 ?+225? ---------------------------------------------------------- Salt 300 -120 +1800 ---------------------------------------------------------- Soybeans 420 -84 +840 ---------------------------------------------------------- Vegetables 700 +2100 ---------------------------------------------------------- Fruit 1800 ?+9000? ---------------------------------------------------------- Wheat 2300 -1150 ---------------------------------------------------------- Rice 2550 -1275 ---------------------------------------------------------- Handicrafts (1900) ---------------------------------------------------------- Coffee 4000 ---------------------------------------------------------- Tea 4000 ---------------------------------------------------------- Spices (3000) ---------------------------------------------------------- Iron (9800) ---------------------------------------------------------- Gold + Silver 59,000 ---------------------------------------------------------- Pearls 80,000 ---------------------------------------------------------- Miso 3600 ---------------------------------------------------------- Beer 12,000 ---------------------------------------------------------- Wine 27,500 ---------------------------------------------------------- Sake 40,000 ---------------------------------------------------------- Gold Craftworks (175,000) ---------------------------------------------------------- ------------- / CASTLE / ------------- (You get a trading post in your castle once you recruit Sairoh.) ---------------------------------------------------------- Sugar 75 -15 +187 ---------------------------------------------------------- Salt 200 -80 +1200 ---------------------------------------------------------- Soybeans 350 -70 +700 ---------------------------------------------------------- Vegetables 750 +2250 ---------------------------------------------------------- Fruit 1500 +7500 ---------------------------------------------------------- Wheat 2000 -1000 ---------------------------------------------------------- Rice 2500 -1250 ---------------------------------------------------------- Handicrafts 1500 ---------------------------------------------------------- Coffee 4500 ---------------------------------------------------------- Tea 4200 ---------------------------------------------------------- Spices (2500) ---------------------------------------------------------- Iron (9800) ---------------------------------------------------------- Gold + Silver (55,000) ---------------------------------------------------------- Pearls (72,000) ---------------------------------------------------------- Miso 2200 ---------------------------------------------------------- Beer 7500 ---------------------------------------------------------- Wine 15,000 ---------------------------------------------------------- Sake 25,000 ---------------------------------------------------------- Gold Craftworks (190,000) ---------------------------------------------------------- ----------------- / RAFTFLEET / ----------------- ---------------------------------------------------------- Sugar 55 -11 +137 ---------------------------------------------------------- Salt 100 -40 +600 ---------------------------------------------------------- Soybeans 300 -60 +600 ---------------------------------------------------------- Vegetables 800 +2400 ---------------------------------------------------------- Fruit 2000 +10,000 ---------------------------------------------------------- Wheat 1900 -950 ---------------------------------------------------------- Rice 2100 -1050 ---------------------------------------------------------- Handicrafts 1650 ---------------------------------------------------------- Coffee (100) ---------------------------------------------------------- Tea 4500 ---------------------------------------------------------- Spices 2500 ---------------------------------------------------------- Iron (9500) ---------------------------------------------------------- Gold + Silver 57,000 ---------------------------------------------------------- Pearls 75,000 ---------------------------------------------------------- Miso 2500 ---------------------------------------------------------- Beer 9000 ---------------------------------------------------------- Wine (8000) ---------------------------------------------------------- Sake 30,000 ---------------------------------------------------------- Gold Craftworks (80,000) ---------------------------------------------------------- --------------------- / HAUD VILLAGE / --------------------- ---------------------------------------------------------- Sugar 60 -12 +150 ---------------------------------------------------------- Salt 200 -80 +1200 ---------------------------------------------------------- Soybeans 400 -80 +800 ---------------------------------------------------------- Vegetables 590 +1770 ---------------------------------------------------------- Fruit 1950 +9750 ---------------------------------------------------------- Wheat 2200 -1100 ---------------------------------------------------------- Rice 2200 -1100 ---------------------------------------------------------- Handicrafts 1550 ---------------------------------------------------------- Coffee 6000 ---------------------------------------------------------- Tea (2000) ---------------------------------------------------------- Spices 2800 ---------------------------------------------------------- Iron 10,000 ---------------------------------------------------------- Gold + Silver 60,000 +900,000 ---------------------------------------------------------- Pearls (75,000) ---------------------------------------------------------- Miso (1) ---------------------------------------------------------- Beer 10,000 ---------------------------------------------------------- Wine 26,000 ---------------------------------------------------------- Sake 35,000 ---------------------------------------------------------- Gold Craftworks 150,000 ---------------------------------------------------------- ----------------- / DWARF CAMP / ----------------- ---------------------------------------------------------- Sugar 85 -17 +212 ---------------------------------------------------------- Salt 240 -96 +1440 ---------------------------------------------------------- Soybeans 490 -98 +980 ---------------------------------------------------------- Vegetables 1000 +3000 ---------------------------------------------------------- Fruit 1950 +9750 ---------------------------------------------------------- Wheat 2150 -1350 ---------------------------------------------------------- Rice 2700 -1350 ---------------------------------------------------------- Handicrafts 2900 ---------------------------------------------------------- Coffee (4500) ---------------------------------------------------------- Tea (5500) ---------------------------------------------------------- Spices (100) ---------------------------------------------------------- Iron 11,000 -5500 ---------------------------------------------------------- Gold + Silver 50,000 -10,000 ---------------------------------------------------------- Pearls (10,000) ---------------------------------------------------------- Miso 3000 ---------------------------------------------------------- Beer 15,000 ---------------------------------------------------------- Wine (50) ---------------------------------------------------------- Sake (46,000) ---------------------------------------------------------- Gold Craftworks 100,000 ---------------------------------------------------------- ------------------- / BEAVER LODGE / ------------------- (Beaver Lodge's trading post does not become available until after you've officially allied with the Beavers.) ---------------------------------------------------------- Sugar 70 -14 +175 ---------------------------------------------------------- Salt 270 -108 +1620 ---------------------------------------------------------- Soybeans 210 -42 +420 ---------------------------------------------------------- Vegetables 550 +1650 ---------------------------------------------------------- Fruit 1750 +8750 ---------------------------------------------------------- Wheat 2100 -1050 ---------------------------------------------------------- Rice 2000 -1000 ---------------------------------------------------------- Handicrafts 2700 ---------------------------------------------------------- Coffee (1) ---------------------------------------------------------- Tea 4800 +24,000 ---------------------------------------------------------- Spices (100) ---------------------------------------------------------- Iron (300) ---------------------------------------------------------- Gold + Silver (4200) ---------------------------------------------------------- Pearls (1000) ---------------------------------------------------------- Miso 6300 ---------------------------------------------------------- Beer (500) ---------------------------------------------------------- Wine (10) ---------------------------------------------------------- Sake 20,000 ---------------------------------------------------------- Gold Craftworks (500) ---------------------------------------------------------- -------------- / YASHUNA / -------------- ---------------------------------------------------------- Sugar 80 -16 +200 ---------------------------------------------------------- Salt 230 -92 +1380 ---------------------------------------------------------- Soybeans 380 -76 +760 ---------------------------------------------------------- Vegetables 500 +1500 ---------------------------------------------------------- Fruit 1850 +9250 ---------------------------------------------------------- Wheat 2500 -1250 ---------------------------------------------------------- Rice 2850 -1425 ---------------------------------------------------------- Handicrafts 1700 ---------------------------------------------------------- Coffee 3500 ---------------------------------------------------------- Tea 4600 ---------------------------------------------------------- Spices 3100 ---------------------------------------------------------- Iron (5000) ---------------------------------------------------------- Gold + Silver (52,000) ---------------------------------------------------------- Pearls (50,000) ---------------------------------------------------------- Miso 5000 ---------------------------------------------------------- Beer 13,500 ---------------------------------------------------------- Wine 10,000 ---------------------------------------------------------- Sake 28,000 ---------------------------------------------------------- Gold Craftworks (90,000) ---------------------------------------------------------- -------------- / ESTRISE / -------------- ---------------------------------------------------------- Sugar 65 -53 +162 ---------------------------------------------------------- Salt 130 -52 +780 ---------------------------------------------------------- Soybeans 260 -52 +520 ---------------------------------------------------------- Vegetables 640 +1920 ---------------------------------------------------------- Fruit 1300 +6500 ---------------------------------------------------------- Wheat 1800 -900 ---------------------------------------------------------- Rice 2450 -1225 ---------------------------------------------------------- Handicrafts 3000 ---------------------------------------------------------- Coffee 4000 ---------------------------------------------------------- Tea 6000 ---------------------------------------------------------- Spices 2150 ---------------------------------------------------------- Iron 8000 ---------------------------------------------------------- Gold + Silver 55,500 ---------------------------------------------------------- Pearls 70,000 -35,000 ---------------------------------------------------------- Miso 4000 ---------------------------------------------------------- Beer 13,000 ---------------------------------------------------------- Wine 18,000 ---------------------------------------------------------- Sake 31,000 ---------------------------------------------------------- Gold Craftworks (130,000) ---------------------------------------------------------- ------------ / SABLE / ------------ ---------------------------------------------------------- Sugar 50 -10 +125 ---------------------------------------------------------- Salt 260 -104 +1560 ---------------------------------------------------------- Soybeans 200 -40 +400 ---------------------------------------------------------- Vegetables 630 +1890 ---------------------------------------------------------- Fruit 1100 +5500 ---------------------------------------------------------- Wheat 2350 -1175 ---------------------------------------------------------- Rice 2050 -1025 ---------------------------------------------------------- Handicrafts (2500) ---------------------------------------------------------- Coffee (5200) ---------------------------------------------------------- Tea (7000) ---------------------------------------------------------- Spices 3450 +13,800 ---------------------------------------------------------- Iron 14,000 ---------------------------------------------------------- Gold + Silver (45,000) ---------------------------------------------------------- Pearls (15,000) ---------------------------------------------------------- Miso 2000 ---------------------------------------------------------- Beer 11,000 ---------------------------------------------------------- Wine (12,000) ---------------------------------------------------------- Sake (25,000) ---------------------------------------------------------- Gold Craftworks (140,000) ---------------------------------------------------------- ------------- / LELCAR / ------------- ---------------------------------------------------------- Sugar 90 -16 +225 ---------------------------------------------------------- Salt 180 -72 +1080 ---------------------------------------------------------- Soybeans 360 -72 +720 ---------------------------------------------------------- Vegetables 950 +2850 ---------------------------------------------------------- Fruit 1400 +7000 ---------------------------------------------------------- Wheat 1950 -975 ---------------------------------------------------------- Rice 2600 -1300 ---------------------------------------------------------- Handicrafts (2750) ---------------------------------------------------------- Coffee 3000 ---------------------------------------------------------- Tea (5800) ---------------------------------------------------------- Spices 4000 ---------------------------------------------------------- Iron 12,000 ---------------------------------------------------------- Gold + Silver (56,000) ---------------------------------------------------------- Pearls (65,000) ---------------------------------------------------------- Miso 3000 ---------------------------------------------------------- Beer 5000 ---------------------------------------------------------- Wine 15,000 ---------------------------------------------------------- Sake 48,000 ---------------------------------------------------------- Gold Craftworks (120,000) ---------------------------------------------------------- ------------ / NIRVA / ------------ ---------------------------------------------------------- Sugar 55 -11 +137 ---------------------------------------------------------- Salt 110 -44 +660 ---------------------------------------------------------- Soybeans 450 -90 +900 ---------------------------------------------------------- Vegetables 540 +1620 ---------------------------------------------------------- Fruit 1200 +6000 ---------------------------------------------------------- Wheat 1700 -850 ---------------------------------------------------------- Rice 3000 -1500 ---------------------------------------------------------- Handicrafts 2800 +8400 ---------------------------------------------------------- Coffee 5000 ---------------------------------------------------------- Tea (6500) ---------------------------------------------------------- Spices 2000 ---------------------------------------------------------- Iron 13,500 ---------------------------------------------------------- Gold + Silver 51,000 ---------------------------------------------------------- Pearls 72,000 ---------------------------------------------------------- Miso 7800 ---------------------------------------------------------- Beer 14,000 ---------------------------------------------------------- Wine 20,000 ---------------------------------------------------------- Sake (50,000) ---------------------------------------------------------- Gold Craftworks 190,000 ---------------------------------------------------------- --------------- / SAURONIX / --------------- ---------------------------------------------------------- Sugar 70 -14 +175 ---------------------------------------------------------- Salt 280 -112 +1680 ---------------------------------------------------------- Soybeans 500 -100 +1000 ---------------------------------------------------------- Vegetables 900 +2700 ---------------------------------------------------------- Fruit 1000 +5000 ---------------------------------------------------------- Wheat 2400 -1200 ---------------------------------------------------------- Rice 2900 -1450 ---------------------------------------------------------- Handicrafts 2400 ---------------------------------------------------------- Coffee (5800) +11,600 ---------------------------------------------------------- Tea 4500 ---------------------------------------------------------- Spices 3800 ---------------------------------------------------------- Iron (14,200) ---------------------------------------------------------- Gold + Silver (20,000) ---------------------------------------------------------- Pearls (20,000) ---------------------------------------------------------- Miso 8000 ---------------------------------------------------------- Beer 8500 ---------------------------------------------------------- Wine (15,000) ---------------------------------------------------------- Sake (44,000) ---------------------------------------------------------- Gold Craftworks (160,000) ---------------------------------------------------------- |--- Recognition ---| The following people sent in info to help make this guide better: Kirin Elairz baby blastoderm John Edwards |--- Copyright ---| This guide is copyright 2006 James Turner. You may not link to or post this guide elsewhere without my permission; however, if you send me an email asking nicely I may grant permission. All trademarks and copyrights contained in this document are owned by their respective trademark and copyright holders.